Singer Sheryl Crow and environmentalist Laurie David have more in common than awards on their mantels. Crow, who has won 9 Grammy Awards, and David, who recently won an Academy Award as a producer for An Inconvenient Truth, are both passionate about resolving the global climate crisis. They recently joined forces in a “Stop Global Warming College Tour.” They took a break from the tour to attend the White House Corespondents’ Association dinner on Saturday, where they happened to run into Karl Rove—or, to be more precise, where they had a run-in with Karl Rove, as they detailed later in The Huffington Post:
Karl Rove Gets Thrown Under the Stop Global Warming Bus
Last night Thelma and Louise drove the bus off the cliff or at least into the White House Correspondents Dinner. The “highlight” of the evening had to be when we were introduced to Karl Rove. How excited were we to have our first opportunity ever to talk directly to the Bush Administration about global warming.
We asked Mr. Rove if he would consider taking a fresh look at the science of global warming. Much to our dismay, he immediately got combative. And it went downhill from there.
We reminded the senior White House advisor that the US leads the world in global warming pollution and we are doing the least about it. Anger flaring, Mr. Rove immediately regurgitated the official Administration position on global warming which is that the US spends more on researching the causes than any other country.
We felt compelled to remind him that the research is done and the results are in (www.IPCC.ch). Mr. Rove exploded with even more venom. Like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum, Mr. Rove launched into a series of illogical arguments regarding China not doing enough thus neither should we. (Since when do we follow China’s lead?)
At some point during his ramblings, we became heartbroken to think that the President of the United States and his top advisers have partially built a career on global warming not being real. We have been telling college students across the country for the past two weeks that government does not change until people demand it… well, listen up folks, everyone had better get a lot louder because the message clearly is not getting through.
In his attempt to dismiss us, Mr. Rove turned to head toward his table, but as soon as he did so, Sheryl reached out to touch his arm. Karl swung around and spat, “Don’t touch me.” How hardened and removed from reality must a person be to refuse to be touched by Sheryl Crow? Unphased, Sheryl abruptly responded, “You can’t speak to us like that, you work for us.” Karl then quipped, “I don’t work for you, I work for the American people.” To which Sheryl promptly reminded him, “We are the American people.” [full text]
The world is a strange but interesting place. Ms. Crow and Ms David and Mr. Rove are now experts in matters of the dynamics of climate on planet earth. of course non ehas consutlted their friendly geologist or fossil hunting paleontologist or read any of the relevant literature. Not to beat the drums of earth history (well maybe just a little), the last million years has seen more than a dozen cold intervals and intervening warm intervals. Most of this planet’s 4.5 billion years has been warmer than now with high sea levels. The last warming cycle beagn pehaps 15,000 years ago and another cold cycle is certain. CO2 has varied widely through time. The 360 ppm (360/1,000,000) is much less than a peak of 2800ppm (2800/1,000,000). And of course the ice caps on Mars are diminishing, Jupiter is warming as is Triton and even Pluto (I am not ready to buy beach front property on Pluto, however). of course we are trashing this world but that is where the real issues are and are ably explained by very good scientists. Unfortunately Ms David and Ms Crow and Mr. Rove (and certainly not the inventor of the internet, Mr. Gore) are less than adequate sources of information.
I agree with Mr Wolberg, at least in part. Karl Rove is no expert on global warming.
So why is he semi-in-charge of policy for this Admin?
And, Mr Wolberg, the geology lesson is fascinating; it’s also irrelavent. The earth was also uninhabited for most of its existence. Does that mean there shouldn’t be life on it now?
Sorry, but that’s your analogy.
On a human scale, it’s like saying women couldn’t vote for most of the existence of America, so they shouldn’t be allowed to vote now.
Times change.
Indeed, you do get the point, times change and so does climate. Actually the oldes living thins seem to be 3.7 billion years old…pretty amazing. Most modern large groups of living things appear about 560 million years ago. closer to home still, the data shows that the last million years have seen perhaps 15 very cold episodes separated by 15 or so warm episodes. The scientific community in the 1940-1975 period was predicting the next Ice Age and then it warmed a bit to now. We are living within a warm period that began about 12-15,000 years ago just after a glacial episode that is likely to end with another glacial episode. None of this is “new” science and the literature of the last 100 years is filleded with notions of “what next?” warm or cold or warmer or colder. My point is that there is a chasm between modern climatologists (modern in the sense of folks who look at “now” weather) and those more geological in interest. Change is the hisotry of the planet and the “modern” and rather cool “episode” seems to have set in in the last blink of the geological eye, 60 million years ago, indeed a long time. The world’s climate is nicely documented as is the history of the atmosphere. It is interesting that there does not seem to be a direct link between CO2 fluctuation and increased temperature, rather the process may be more complex with some involvement of the Sun’s output very likely given the new information about warming on other planets and moons. None of this surprised a astrophysist friend of mine who keeps telling me how variable stars like our Sun can be. But don’t get me wrong. We are doing terrible things to this world and its inhabitants, including ourselves. Most of these can be addressed. But issues like the output of the Sun or the wobble of the Earth’s axis of rotation, linked to climate change, can be observed but not changed.