I can’t resist. The right wing seems to have just one voice of the working class to speak for them. He’s a busy man. Even though his name isn’t really Joe, and he’s not really a plumber, and he never really had $250,000 to buy a business, and real plumbers hardly ever make that much—at least he’s not elitist. Not like those snobs who expect qualifications.
So ‘Joe’ has a new gig as a journalist, covering the conflict in the Mideast. He starts out by saying in an interview that he doesn’t think the press should cover wars, because regular people would find out what’s going on.
The best take on that amazing statement is here, at Down With Tyranny.
I don’t know if ‘Joe’ is some kind of trial balloon, to see if we all jump up and say, “yeah, we don’t need all that depressing war reporting. Let’s watch a movie instead.” If he were really a working man, he’d be home working and worrying about his job like the rest of us. But few of us really get that 15 minutes of fame, so I can’t blame him for trying to cash in while he can.
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what’s up with ‘Joe’ the ‘Plumber’ and ‘Jeff’ ‘Gannon’ the ‘journalist’ both wearing the bald look? are they trying to be ‘military’?
What’s up with Steven Brown having people thinking he’s a lawyer and admitting he isn’t only if questioed directly,as I did with him?I have known attorneys who thought he was a member of the bar.In fact,he has a Bachelor’s in Public Administration.So one of RI’s leading “legal”voices is only a busybody from Barrington.The “right wing”as you like to put it,has no lock on frauds and charlatans.
I think Steve Brown has done a lot to serve our state. Someone has to stand up for unpopular ideas. It’s interesting that Prof. Donna Hughes, who is a contributor to National Review, sought help from the ACLU when she was sued for slander. It was a victory for free speech. Also, Steve Brown has been around for decades. I give ‘Joe’ the ‘Journalist’ six weeks max.
It looks like Joe’s official Andy Warhol quasi-celebrity/
quasi-plumber, digital-display wristwatch is reading 14:59… tick, tock
Nancy-Steven Brown has lied his rear end off in pursuit of his agenda.He perpetuated a myth about how a poor guy who had some serious problems hung himself because the evil ICE agents were coming up the stairs.They were professionals executing a warrant,something I did hundreds of times.I think you and I have a lot of common ground,but when it comes to this creature,no way.
You want to know about good civil liberties practitioners?
Bob Mann-as good as they come.
Good advocate for aliens?Carl Kruger,an attorney with the International Institute.
I don’t want to deny anyone their rights.But no officer doing their job correctly should be subjected to the poison disseminated by this rabid punk.
I agree: no officer doing his job correctly should be falsely accused.
However, can we really be sure they were doing their job correctly?
Yes,Klaus,I am sure.I don’t know about “we”,because I actually know one of the men involved and he has an unblemished record.I myself had no disciplinary action taken against me for any reason in 21 years.I also never had a single accusation of physical abuse or ethnic slurs,etc,etc.I was involved in more physical altercations than I could count,but since they occured for justifiable reasons,I was never accused of anything.From all accounts,the subject of the warrant,Mynor Montufar,had no allegations to make,nor did a second illegal alien arrested.Steven Brown used a routine arrest as a sounding board for defamation of people doing their job in the furtherance of the ACLU agenda to hamper ICE operations.
I have seen the ACLU in Illinois suborn perjury on behalf of illegal aliens.
The ACLU was busy with other burning issues such as Christmas creches and wayside crosses while I was assigned to RI,so my anger at Steven Brown does not result from any incident where I was a target of their (ACLU)actions.Just so the record’s clear.
PS:I was(along with about 130 other INS and Illinois State Police officers) involved in a lawsuit filed by the ACLU in Illinois(see perjury comment above)which was dismissed in Federal court.However,Steven Brown was in no way connected to it-this was about 26 or 27 years ago.
If ICE does something demonstrably wrong,I would not defend them.ICE has been slandered by everyone from local community activists to Barack Obama when he spoke before La Raza.When I viewed the tape I couldn’t believe a major party candidate would use the language he did before an organization I think has racist tendencies.The very name itself means “The Race”Nice.
You hit the nail on the head, Joe.
“You” may know, but “we” have no way of knowing.
Klaus-I do my best not to fabricate or make assumptions with no basis -I can be wrong,but I’m not a liar.I think the lack of complaint by the actual subject of the warrant regarding his treatment(i.e.questions of physical abuse,etc)says something.
The whining about mean spiritidness is so much baloney.There wouldn’t have been a peep had Montufar been a US citizen with a fugitive warrant.
And guess what-reviewing the actions of Federal agents is the purview of internal affairs units and the US Attorney should the need arise.
The media can examine cases,but they can only state an opinion,not make a definitive determination of fact in the same way a court or public agency can.
Do you ever question the truthfulness of assertions by the ACLU and kindred groups?This is not a loaded question-I am just asking.
See, Joe, that’s where you start drawing questionable inferences. Just because the actual subject of the warrant didn’t complain doesn’t mean s/he had nothing to complain about.
The problem is that certain populations have been ignored and oppressed so systemically and systematically that too many of them don’t complain. They’re either convinced it won’t do any good, or that complaining will only invite further retribution.
That’s why the voting qualifications perpetrated in places like Indiana (which we discussed, I believe) are so pernicious. On the surface, they seem perfectly reasonable. But, based on 200 years of oppression, they are anything but reasonable.
The problem is that you can never experience life as some of these others have experienced it. I’ve experienced anti-Semitism from nearly first-hand, so I appreciate the depths of those attitudes, but I also appreciate that African-Americans have it much worse. Hence “Driving while Black.”
FWIW: the ACLU is not a liberal organization, whatever you wish to believe. They beleive in supporting civil rights for everyone. Surely you recall that it was the ACLU that supported the neo-Nazis when they wanted to march through Skokie, IL?
“Freedom” means freedom from a “tyranny of the majority” as James Madison put it.
And given the way the media has behaved as an organ of the Republican party for the past three electoral cycles, let’s avoid the claims that the media has a left-wing agenda. The main-stream media is owned by large, for-profit corporations, and their primary (if not sole) objective is profit. Whatever it takes to stir up a controversy is seen as legitimate in the pursuit of, not truth, but profit.
So, if you disagree with the media, go after their corporate masters.
Please don’t tell me about anti-Semitism-I spent my life in the military and law enforcement,not exactly overflowing with Jews.I experienced some of it-I usually responded by going right upside the offender’s head.After a while I just realized it was part of the territory,but I never let anyone keep me down with it.
I have no idea what you do for a living.I am sure I wouldn’t think to advise you on how your job should be done if I hadn’t experience in the area.
My wife is Hispanic and my son has been stopped numerous times for reasons that probably had something to do with his appearance.He is in his 30’s now and recently got stopped by an Hispanic cop and spoken to in Spanish,which he doesn’t understand.He gave the cop a piece of his mind and kept on going where he was headed.
My grandaughter is half Black/Cherokee and half White/Hispanic(which isn’t a race at all),so the questions you raise are not abstractions to me.
The ACLU defended a pitiful handful of “Nazis” in Chicago while I lived there.I saw the whole “party”fit in one elevator at the Federal Building along with their Jewish ACLU lawyer and two GSA agents.What a joke.The ACLU defended them to show how “evenhanded” they are.
The ACLU opposes individual gun rights under the 2nd amendment and routinely defends the “rights” of pedophiles.
They took the NAMBLA case in Massachusetts when it was
a private lawsuit filed against NAMBLA by the parents of a child murdered by pedophiles.The government was not involved,hence no Constitutional issue arose.When I asked Steven Brown about this,he feigned ignorance.No way was he unaware of the case.It was a high profile matter in the neighboring state.The ACLU was founded by Roger Baldwin,a one-worlder socialist with the intent to do away with national governments.
Klaus,if you want to portray illegal aliens as victims,have a ball.I wonder how you would manipulate that opinion to cover the numerous gang members,drug dealers,sex offenders and sundry other criminals in their ranks.Most of the legal and illegal aliens I arrested in RI were criminally involved,and not for minor offenses.
We are not going to agree on much,but I still like to share my point of view with you-it comes from experience,not talk radio or talking head tv.
Oh,and why should Montufar complain?He had due process and then took it on the lam.And then was dumb enough tto get his mug all over the local media with paper hanging on him.C’mon!!