From Huffington Post, ‘Uninsured and Sick, Student Begged’. It happens every day, Americans begging to be granted indigent care. Working Americans, taxpaying Americans. Students, parents. What is the social good in shutting millions of Americans out of health care? The joy of granting charity? Pray you never have to beg for it.

6 thoughts on “Charity

  1. The point?

    ‘Tis better to deny 46,999,999 deserving people health care rather than allow a single undeserving to get care.

  2. I believe all colleges require students to demonstrate that they have medical coverage. I also think those colleges/universities with teaching medical/dental schools offer attractive insurance packages for enrolled students.

    Similarly, numbers must have meaning. There is no real “count” of 50 million, 40 million, or any million of anyone NOT having healthcare available. These are estimates or a mixture of fictions and estimates. The original number ESTINATED was 40 million by the administration, then this was increased 50 million by activists on the left. Known numbers that are kind of real, are the counts provided by insurance companies, most (more than 55%) of whom are non-profit by the way, and government agencies. That assemblage of numbers seems to show that approximately 93% of Americans (range of 90%-95%) have “insurance” of various kinds and combinations. With a population of about 330,000,000 (again an estimate with a range or 310,000,000-340,000,000) and 75% of these are “satisfied” with their insurance,as seen in polling data, whatever that means, the numbers seem reasonable. The estimate of 10-15,000,000 of the 40 million as illegals is another estimate most Congressional number crunchers agree upon. They are not supposed to be here and not many Americans want to pay for their insurance. Perhaps Mexico will subsidize the insurance for the Mexican illegals who comprise the bulk of the illegals, although I don’t think this will happen. Another 10-15 million more could purchase insurance but don’t, and that estimate was used by the Baccus committee. What is left, is another estimate of approximately 10-15 million without insurance who would want insurance if they could afford insurance. These numbers include adults and children of course. Of the 10-15 million, approximately one-third are single parent households (parent and 1 or more children). One-third are elderly (65 and older) and one-third are two parents and 1 or more children.

    The rational approach would be to provide subsidies for those without insurance. If an insurance policy can be had for $3,000 a year for a family plan, and there are 10 million families or households, the cost is $30 billion dollars. This is far less than the $12 trillion dollar price tag, the Senate or House wishes to slap on Americans. That amount will leave my 1-year-old granddaughter with a $138,000 debt by the time she will want to star college in 2026.

  3. he was in grad school, his parent’s insurance no longer covered him, he took a risk. can you imagine though, just throwing away a 23 year old man who had 4 years of college? should we just say he made ‘bad choices’ and wasn’t fated to live? some of the people i talked to at town halls said that’s how it is. we are small, we are limited, we can’t insure all Americans. i don’t buy that.

  4. Donald, you throw a lot of meaningless numbers around.

    We can cover all of our citizens, at reasonable cost. The rest of the industrialized world manages to do so. Why can’t we? Are the Canadians or the British or the Germans or the French that much smarter than we are?

    Is that your claim?

    We pay twice as much per person as the next country in line, w/o demonstrably better results. Why? Because we pay for corporate jets, multi-million dollar bonuses for execs, and a thousand other perks. That is where your health care dollars are going.

    We are paying for multi-million dollar bonuses, and yet we can’t scrape together the $10k to cover a college kid for a year?

    How stupid are we?

    And your quip about illegals is exactly the point I was making.

  5. There are a number of responses that may or may not be appropriate, if I am missing something. Firstly, most graduate students receive funding, either as Teaching Assistants, Research Assistants or on fellowships or funded by the faculty advisor’s grants. Several of my own kids in grad school are variously funded and there are available policies that they can and do select, at reasonable cost bmuch below $10,000/year. I pay for the single kid in undergrad school via a private insurance policy because she is out of state and because the policy is better that her scholarship would have provided. In general, colleges and universities do work with students to get them insured one way or another. The loss of a bright graduate student simply over an insurance issue is generally avoided to the extent possible.

    The claim that healthcare is available elsewhere at less cost with better “outcomes” is not sustainable when looked at in detail. Britain and Canada have serious issues in quality, delay in treatment and availablity of care on demand. The growth of a private sphere in Britain is apparent; anyone who can, prefers to go to private physicians. In Canada, there is a mass migration to the U.S. for treatment by those wh can manage it, and a migration of physicians as well.

    The numbers frequrently touted for infant mortality, longevity, “wellness” in general are poorly analysed and thought out. For example, the Japanese have a longer life expectency than Americans. Looked at in detail, the results of this “truism” become apparent. When one says, “the Japanese,” there is a clear image of what the term means. When one says American, there is no such clear image. If we split that term into its ethnic componenst, the picture that emerges is more complex, but apparent: differe subsets of “Americans” have, for whatever reason, differing life durations.
    The same is clearly true for infant mortality: the highest infant mortality among “Americans” is separable into component subgroups, and the range then overlaps that of the homogeneous leading foreign statistical subset.

    The U.S. leads in pharmacological advances with more patents than any other nation by far; diagnostics; availability fo technological devices for patients; and procedures. If one looks closely at awards in medicine, the U.S. far outsrips all rivals.

  6. Donald, the view from where I work, is that those fortunate enough to be covered by private insurance, Medicare or Medicaide do have a basic safety net, but huge money is wasted for lack of patient education and lack of coordination of resources and information.
    I know lots of people of all ages and circumstances who have no insurance at all. I’ve helped people get into the Providence Ambulatory Health Care system with a sliding fee scale, and helped people do the Hill-Burton community free care thing at the hospital, and called 911 for problems that were emergent but could have been prevented–and then worked with the patients on prevention.
    The view from the ground is it’s a mess, and a heartless, inefficient one, and I have personally known people who would have been spared suffering, and even one person who died of preventable causes.
    No health care system is perfect, but we are not living in the best of all possible worlds.

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